![]() MARTIN: Phil Hartman was genius in that role. MARTIN: Well, we mentioned caveman, and this is another classic "SNL" skit, "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer." : That's probably when people have about their best senses of humor when they're, like, 14 or something, I think. I'm actually not very good at talking about things and also I tend to, like, just go for the little boy's stuff, you know. I mean, that's the best comedy is riffing off of mythical things like cowboys and flying saucers and, you know. : You know, for me, the best stuff is sort of mythical stuff. MARTIN: Your jokes don't have a lot of pop culture references in them, and I thought that was kind of interesting. ![]() But that was a personal favorite that never got on. But, anyway, it just sort of died at dress rehearsal. We should be on - no, well, the bees are more of a natural thing though and, like, it was just - then a zombie comes to the sheriff's office door and he's being attacked by bees. You know, the town is trying to - whose side are we on? Well, the zombies are more like people. And then like, oh no, they're being attacked by bees. It was called "The Zombies Versus the Bees." It started out as sort of, like, a zombie movie with the teenagers parking, and zombies. MARTIN: Did you have a particular favorite sketch of yours that never made it through, that never made it to air? But, you know, sometimes just the weirdest, quirky things are, those are the things that people like. It's like on "Saturday Night Live" every Wednesday we would have a read-through with the cast of all the sketches that had been submitted by the writers. MARTIN: Read-through is when you kind of test out jokes and. But it went through a read-through and it was a big hit at read-through and a big hit on air. : I don't know how two neurons connect and driving cat comes out. I mean, some people find this absolutely hilarious and other people just look at it and then look at me and think, why is this funny? What to you is funny about a driving cat? MARTIN: So, I've played Toonces clips off YouTube for a variety of different people and I get different reactions. MARTIN: Can you talk about another sketch that's a particular favorite of mine? Why don't we dispense of the introductions. MARTIN: Do you just go into, like, a riff on some tangent to prove that. And they'll go, no, this was a thing on "Saturday Night Live." And they still don't believe you, even when you're standing there, you know. Sometimes I'll go, like, check into a hotel or something and the guy at the hotel - Jack Handey - there used to be this thing on "Saturday Night Live," you know, with that name. : The ironic thing is people think Jack Handey's a made-up name, so, they didn't really give me a byline after all. MARTIN: It's kind of uncommon on "SNL" to get you perform your own writing with a byline like that though, right? I mean, he's like a dangerous person who thinks he's normal. The "Deep Thoughts" character - I mean, it was deep thoughts by Jack Handey, right? It's you. MARTIN: You mentioned that this was your excuse to get the "Deep Thoughts" character out into the world. The fourth is: hey, where'd Don go? The fifth is: oh, there he is. The second is: hey, what happened to the map? The third is: oh, yeah, I gave it to Don. (Reading) When you have a real treasure map in your hand, all sorts of thoughts go through your head. MARTIN: I would love if you could read us a little bit. ![]() And then I thought I had to make it more ominous, so I just sort of changed the whole nature of Hawaii to make it very stinky and dangerous. But then I thought that wasn't ominous enough, so I sort of made them go on a treasure hunt. So, at first, I was thinking, you know, the deep thoughts character and Don would just go on vacation to Hawaii but then. And Hawaii seemed like a good place for him to go 'cause it's so beautiful and pristine. I had been thinking for a long time about just sort of getting the "Deep Thoughts" character out in the field, see what kind of destruction he would cause. A lot of your writing is short stuff, right, like writing a book is different. Now, he is the author of a new novel - his first - called "The Stench of Honolulu." Jack Handey joins us from Santa Fe, New Mexico. ![]() A writer, responsible for years of Saturday night laughs. MARTIN: The voice behind "Deep Thoughts," those profound, philosophical adages, isn't just another "SNL" character it is Jack Handey, a real guy. (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE") If you watched "Saturday Night Live" in the 1990s, you might remember this:
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